0 grs and it is a more comfortable load. IIRC, I'd load 2. ALL SALES ARE FINAL – No cancellations or returns. Apr 26, 2018 · Rem #7 1/2 primer, 26-30gr AA1680, 180gr Hornady SS-PB, firmly rolled crimped into cannelure 240gr Badman Bullets LWC, 4gr Trail Boss Thanks, Dinny The max order quantity of any powder SKU is 5 and we will only accept one order, per customer, per calendar month with a maximum weight of 48lbs. 357 loads which the M-19/M--66 may throw by the thousands without a hiccup. Oct 4, 2013 · To date, all I've shot through my Uberti 1873 is light Trail Boss reloads, same load as I use in my revolvers. 45-70, and even . 0 1,074 N/A 223 Remington 55 GR HDY FMJ Hodgdon Tite Group . These are shot through a 7. Do not compress. I load it for 300 gr Oregon Trail cast and it works well. Shooters World BUFFALO RIFLE . 38 Jun 27, 2020 · Using a standard powder like Unique or Bullseye and even max charges will be more than safe in a . May 27, 2011 · I loaded some 38's with 2. 38 Spl. 357 Maximum and everything in between. until another My local friend, Bob Jeffrey, reported that the . 5 Grendel, 30-06 Springfield, 300 BLK, 44 Mag, 357 Maximum, 9mm, 45 ACP, 45 Colt, 30 Carbine Aug 1, 2012 · The Hodgdon site has Trail Boss loads for both . Incidentally, the Lyman, Hodgdon, Nosler, and Speer reloading manuals all recommend the use of rifle (rather than pistol) primers due to the high operating pressure of the . I've been very pleased with the results. 30- 30, . Grs. 7 x . I use the charts, but they (people that make trailboss) say as long as you do not compress it, the rule of thumb for safe maximum load is fill the case to bottom of bullet for all pistol and rifle cartridges. Nov 18, 2013 · It's been quite awhile, but I used to load single or double roundball loads in 38 Special brass. 357 mag. CAST LSWC IMR Trail Boss . 357 Maximum in a Contender comes close to . 357, and . Find the best reloading data for . I just finished shooting a 4. Also very safe in that you can't double charge without running over the case. 1 1,064 4,000 CUP Trail Boss lists a max load for . Trail Boss powder in appropriate charges with these bullets makes great practice ammunition. 357 Mag pistol. And you can reload . 224" 2. 8 grains of Trail Boss, which only filled around 60% of the powder space. Powders include IMR. I'd like around 830 fps. EDIT: Haven't gotten to test 158s with Trail Boss yet, but the 230gr WCs with Lil'Gun seem to be acceptable with my limited testing. May 11, 2017 · There are light . com/reloadingdata/357-magnum/ Apr 5, 2009 · Just curious as to why Trail Boss? It is mostly used for light loads, They'er are much better powders such as AA 1680 or IMR 4227 for the max, If i was loading light in a max I would use . Posted by u/Loads-of-Bacon - 1 vote and no comments Jul 30, 2017 · Thank you everyone. Maybe another manual has a load range listed. Nov 1, 2014 · There has to be someone that has tried loading below Hodgdon's minimum loading for 357 or 38. Apr 8, 2007 · For those who shoot the 357 Maximum, has anyone developed any loads using IMR Trail Boss? The bullets I will be shooting from my 12" 357 Maximum are as follows: Lee Custom 180 grain LFN w/GC RCBS 205 grain LFN w/GC LBT 220 grain LFN w/GC All bullets are cast from wheel weights, lubed and sized to . 358 bullets in . Ruger Bisley and 30-year-old Remington factory ammo set the performance standard for Lane's . I believe those loads are what TB considers "Cowboy Action" loads, or smokeless loads that produce equivalent black powder velocities for cowboy action competition. 0 or 4. 44 mag and . I am planning on making some loads with the same boolit but with 4. The rounds worked great in my Ruger GP100. Have heard good stuff about Trail Boss. Jul 7, 2019 · I picked up some 38 caliber, 105 grain LTCFP from Desperado Bullets. com/reloadingdata/357-magnum/ Jun 1, 2014 · I've been reloading a long time and I had heard of Trail Boss from some Cowboy Action shooters a few years ago. 2 754 16,500 CUP 4. " Trail Boss for low noise, low recoil loads, and BP for when I wanted a boom and smoke. However, pressures skyrocket from a double charge of the latter. Dec 19, 2012 · CAST LFP, IMR Trail Boss 4. 45 ACP with some 225 gr lead RN cast bullets. So far I've loaded some with 6. That said, the Raptor . According to my chrono the loads averaged 712 fps, 725 fps, and 702 fps per batch. 38 Specials and . As soon as I get my shell plates foe the press. 5 grain load of Trail Boss in . Velocity is 1200 same as the b/p load. the load formula is easy - start with 70% of the total tb powder that fits into the case with the bullet yer using - this is important as the bullet seat depth determines the powder volume in a 2. Clays, Bullseye, and Trail Boss would be better for slower target loads. Powders include IMR Trail Boss: Subscribe: 915: Remarks Dec 24, 2023 · Titegroup has become a new favorite powder of mine for everything except maximum level magnum handgun loads. Steeltown In fact, according to the Hodgdon Data Center, the Trail Boss charge for a 158 gr. But I did load a lot of it for my dad who wanted a soft shooting round. Nov 21, 2018 · I've used Trail Boss in my . MAXIMUM LOAD - Case: Federal / Primer: Fed. One of the reasons I went to Trail Boss is that it is bulky and fills more of the case. I would start at 50% of available capacity, and I doubt you'll see any accuracy above 70%. 357, but your bullet may have a different shape, different bearing length, etc. We shall see how they do. This load give excellent accuracy and prints dead on with the B/P load. Mar 1, 2021 · I found 12 grains #2400 to pretty much be a maximum load in . 0gn, 3. Plus I can find Trail Boss in the LGS. Overall, the Bullberry barrel preferred heavier bullets, even though the rifling twist is 1:16, while factory Contender barrels in . Once found, the fun begins! The average MV of those 4 loads is 1672. I then machined the case down to this measurement. Load are soft to shoot and there is no loss of accuracy. gong all day long so don't think it's for close range only. tend to do quite well in the . I'm loading 357's at the minimum for Trailboss under Missouri Bullet's Cowboy #15 158 gr LRNFP and have been contemplating trying lighter loads. Start with this beginning load and work up to your maximum charge, all the while searching for the most accurate reduced load. of trail boss and they were as little too stout for a plain wadcutter load. 475" 2. 357" 1. 2 grains of Unique under a 250 gr Hunter Specialties cast boolit and plan on loading some with Trail Boss per the Trail Boss Nov 5, 2012 · I don't have a . trail boss is a fast-ish powder, and great for reduced loads. It does, however, list a velocity of 1,061 fps for Nosler 150-grain Ballistic Tips with 13. 357, but I will use the Trail Boss formula to calculate my starting load for the . Because the . Have had great luck with it. May 18, 2013 · HP-38 & W231 5. I often load 45-70 with 70%-90% case fill loads just to punch paper. 5, 910, 17,100 CUP Should fit your needs. 357 Magnum. You'll need to get into reloading, but it's fun, and there is an initial expense of acquiring the components and dies, presses etc. Feb 6, 2012 · In looking at my load data, I tried Trailboss at 3. 357, then load and crimp. 38, . case for . shootersreference. 38s or . The reason i am trying Trail Boss is in an attempt to emulate somewhere between 22wrm and 17hmr performance on light bodied vermin. I tested these loads in my Ruger GP100 . {Please read the board policy on posting copyrighted materials} Dec 5, 2017 · IMR Trail Boss is a bulky fast burn rate powder, so you cannot double charge a case without noticing your mistake. * Bullseye, Unique and 2400 are products of Alliant (formerly Hercules) Powders. Trail Boss does work very well in cases like that, but at much lower loads than you would think. 38+P, . Take 70% of this powder charge weight (multiply the maximum load from step 1 by . 6. 5 Creedmoor and 308 Winchester had similar points of impact (POI) to their full power counterparts, the Trail Boss loads all had a POI at 100 yards that was lower than the full power equivalent. Apr 6, 2011 · Have 4759 5744 trailboss 2400 looking for mild plinking load Mar 27, 2016 · Hi guys, Wanted to know what loads you guys have for 357 Magnum warm to hot loads for the H&G #50 or the Lyman 358495 I've checked my Lyman's 49th, Cast 4th ed, and Lee but haven't found enough info to my satisfaction. I never thought it would be good for target loads in . Have never loaded below the start with this powder. 357 brass, a Hornady 158 grain SWC over a . These are 38's fired in a 357 GP-100. cast LSWC in . These loads with cast bullets make the old guns inexpensive to shoot and recoil modestly, adding appeal to a wider range of shooters. Even the potent . 357 Maximum. I think that its bulk is its appeal. With 158 gr Hornady xtp and 12. I've come up with 3. With lower grain Trail Boss loads, there have been several times I've fired a shot and someone nearby will go, oh oh, you had a squib load, better check your bore to see if bullet is stuck in bore. The max load that Hodgdon shows is 4. I put 25 Trail Boss loads through the H&R today at 910 fps without leading. Thank you. Then fill the case to that mark with Trail Boss, pour into the scale pan and weigh. about 925 fps with those 125gr plated bullets. While the magnum primer issue does not concern me that much (always work loads back up when you change something) the limited load data for trail boss does since I only have the one source I noted above. Good, accurate load that doesn't beat your hands up. 38 Special and . 5 to 3 grains of Bullseye, then a . 0 to 2. Don. of powder now hold only 9 ozs. Jun 8, 2010 · Then fill the case to that mark with Trail Boss, pour into the scale pan and weigh. 357 Magnum (IMR Handgun Trail Boss Data) Warning! Notes: case: Winchester; twist: 1:18. Apr 8, 2009 · All my 357 cases begin use with CCI 550 (SP Magnums). Mar 10, 2009 · - Trail Boss is *NOT* dangerous to use with jacketed bullets. Jul 6, 2023 · I've been using Trail Boss for years in my 38 Special loads. And don't go below the listed 38 starting loads in 357 brass, stuck bullets can result FWIW; I have a load for my "house gun" that is a DEWC loaded over a max. 0 grains of Trail Boss. Thought about using my 1873 with heavier loads for targets at the 200 yard range, but d Full copper plated bullets are a good idea for . 375 roundball through a sizing die to make it . I settled on 2. I am guessing somewhere around 1,000 to 1,100 fps. could legitimately claim top gun performance. Especially . Starting Loads Maximum Loads CALIBER BULLET WEIGHT MANUFACTURER POWDER BULLET DIAMETER C. Nov 10, 2010 · I haven't used the 358315, but I have loaded quite a few 358430 200 grain . While not particularly accurate it would still hit a can or ding a plate. I have tried . Nov 6, 2017 · Agreed. 357 magnum, the minimum is 3. Aug 11, 2014 · i've loaded and shot a LOT of trail boss . For instance, the increase in velocity from a Browning/Winchester Model 1873 with a 20-inch barrel as compared to a Cimarron/Uberti Model 1873 with a 24-inch barrel was only 24 fps. He called them "Fun Loads" - "Impressive Loads" and "Holy ****" loads. 357 Mag max pressure is 35k psi so as you can see, you will never have a pressure problem when shooting the lower pressure 38 Special loads. plated bullets between 38 special loads and 357 loads. 5. These are BHN=8~9 soft cast specifically for bunny-fart loads, because Wrongway says this sounds cuter than mouse-fart loads. 100 / Barrel: 5" / Bullet: . The Hodgdon site shows a max load producing muzzle velocity of only 816fps for a 200gr lead semi-wadcutter. 0gr charge (this is a start charge listed for 44 spl) . Trail Boss is really the way to go for lead bullet fun! I also loaded some 158gr . Unique is a great powder but need to find some alternatives due to scarcity. 357 Maximum - Published Manufacturer Loading Data Shellholders: Lee #1 Sep 24, 2017 · Unlike the reduced power H4895 loads, which in both the 6. May 12, 2020 · Trail Boss, if you can find any, is the ultimate reduced load powder. 357 brass so it won't leave a ring on the cylinder like if I employ . 357. 8 grains of Trail Boss max for a 148 gr hollow case wadcutter at 675 FPS. VEL. Starting load is 4 grains, and max load is 5. 38 behind both 125gr and 158gr lead for Cowboy action shooting. 358 and water cooled to hardness of 22. There's a CFE Pistol load, but its minimum charge of 6. I was using the same 240 gr SWC with three different loads, Trail Boss, Blue Dot and H110. Has anyone tried the bulky but moderate "Trail Boss" powder of "cowboy action" fame? Feb 5, 2018 · Lee cast 200gr bullet powder coated Universal 6. I use Trail Boss in magnum cases for when I want a low power load, but the ability to feed them in a lever action or if I have a gun that's not exactly strong (top breaks, cap and ball conversions). That is within IMR specs for both bullets. Mar 3, 2013 · I loaded some 357 Starline brass with 4. Accuracy was great and recoil was minimal. 610" 3. The 5. Using bullets from LRNFP. 3 grains of trail boss under a 148 grain button nose wadcutter lubed with Saeco green. 44 and the . Trail Boss is based on new technology that allows very-high loading density, good flow through powder measures, stability in severe temperature variation, and, most Dec 5, 2008 · Trail Boss is a great powder for use with cast bullets. The 158 gr LRNFP bullets I use plops even your Trail Boss Maximum Load 357 Mag reloads well within the permissible SASS power factor range. 4gn. The . Nov 7, 2014 · So, a few weeks ago i went and stocked up with powder. This yields 800-ish fps in most of my guns. B. I called them my "Plinking Loads" - "Mag Loads" and "Barn Burners". Trail Boss loads only produce about 1/3 the design pressure of the round you are loading for. 45 Colt and 45 acp are perfect Jan 4, 2018 · That changed when Elmer Keith and the other . A load that fills the case to the bottom of the seated bullet is 100% max load. It has a 6 inch barrel. Light loads I use Unique. My two loads consisted of either 4. That is the starting velocity for all of the powders shown in my Hornady manual. Us in in both rifle and Pistol, also Max rifle and pistol. It's kind of a modern Unique. 0g load under a 125g TC (lead) bullet was chronographed at 663fps out of a 3" barrel. 5 grs. 44 mag with 245 gr lead SWC and some . Aug 22, 2013 · Or load your favorite 357/38 Spec. Dec 31, 2013 · Trail Boss loads. 357 Maximum? I’m launching them from an 18” MGM barrel on my TC Encore in pistol configuration. 30-06. told me was the max load for 460 S&W mag was to the base of the seated bullet. I looked up the load options in my Hogdon handbook and went with the max load for a 38 Special. 38 special wadcutters in the . More about this powder:Trail Boss was designed specifically for low-velocity lead bullets suitable for Cowboy Action shooting. I got 515, 555, and 575. I have since backed off to 8. They claim that you will get inconsistent velocities if you do and that there is *NO* risk of spikes in pressure. 357 Mag WC loads? Dec 27, 2020 · It's very safe to use 38 Special loads in 357 Mag cases. 285"; primer: Winchester SPM; do not exceed loads listed Mar 1, 2011 · A useful load for a . I just loaded to Speer's vol 13 minimum load data. I have some Trail Boss I have been planning to try in the 38 and 357. Printed from Shooter's Reference on 08/14/2024: https://www. I'd be inclined to go with Trail Boss or use max 38 SPECIAL data for Feb 9, 2021 · (It's been reported that Trail Boss can be troublesome in finding accurate loads; this isn't a target load, but it works well for me. Recipe Source: Jan 3, 2015 · Interesting post. 357 Maximum - it meters well, and the loads generally come close to filling the case (making a double charge almost impossible). 2g for IDPA loads (670fps,) both with 158g cast round nose. I shoot 370gr. Whenever practicable, avoid loading to maximum possible velocity. GRS. Feb 15, 2013 · I had an opened bottle of Trail Boss and decided to try it out. Recoil energy is a slight 1. 7), and that is your starting load. 357 which is about the same as for . Will be loading some . For the same bullet but in . 200" 3. 314", 90 grain LSWC Oct 31, 2009 · The 500 is alot of fun and can be loaded to take everything from rabbits to grizzly bears. Hodgdon Universal has been a good powder with this bullet, and works just as good with 6 gr in my 357 with a 125gr bullet, I really like this powders ability to work between the 44 spl/mag loads and 357 mag loads. 7 grains to the base of a seated bullet, 5. 9 grains (Data from Hodgdon shows 3. 5, 752, 13,000 CUP to 6. I'd start well below 12 grs. I just took a friend out to shoot some of my 44 mag loads. 357 Mag 1894C Nov 12, 2007 · This load is above MAX in the book, follow this at your own risk and NOT in trapdoor rifles. 38 Special, up to 900 fps with 2400 in . Excellent shooting load like other wadcutter loads using unique, bullseye, etc. Jul 2, 2021 · Figure out the useable volume from the base of the bullet, start at 70% of that, and work up if desired, but no more than 100% of useable capacity. Dec 31, 2020 · While there is surely enough capacity in a . Trail Boss is an awesome powder for Apr 27, 2011 · Trail Boss Just now switching over to a new press. I’ll stick with slower-burning powders and magnum primers for those maximum velocity loads. Have any of you done less-than-maximum loads with your . 0gr of trail boss in a . 3 grains of Trail Boss from the . Jan 1, 2010 · My starting loads were very similar to what IMR posts on their Trail Boss page for the 30-30 rifle and . Wt. I filled the shortened case to the max with Trail Boss and measured the charge. 110, as you already know, is for max power loads, and I believe 4759 is discontinued. That charge is barely below Feb 20, 2022 · It takes up so much volume that the cans usually used to ship 1 lb. Unique and Herco work well at roughly the same charge weight as TB, but work up on that number, and be careful that you don't hang up a portion of a charge, that gets dumped in the next round. This is 753 fps / 11,600 psi and 952 Jun 8, 2019 · In the 38/357 I found that metering was an issue, and with 125 > 147 gr bullets I did not find a suitable load. 4gn, and 3. 1,185 max Trail Boss 3. 2 and the maximum is still 4. The boolit (seen on top) is an H+G 148 grain solid wadcutter. 357s, 44, 44 Russian and my 45-70 with great success. I am going to load up 10 each in the Mag starting at 4 grains and going up . 357 JHP loaded with IMR 4895, they are a great low recoiling small game or possibly deer bullet. Apr 30, 2013 · If just target shooting, Trail Boss may be marginally ok in your pistol. 0 grains posted roughly 1,875 fps with the Speer 180-grain . 5 rounds were loaded per test batch. 45 Colt. Note: A complete article about the . 357 Magnums. So, I spent a very nice couple of hours this evening cranking out some 38 specials topped by a 148 gr wadcutter with 3. (ft/s) PRESSURE 223 Remington 55 GR HDY FMJ Hodgdon Trail Boss . What I did, is measure the 158 gr swc bullet and subtracted the length from a new . L. If you try the 148wc, Hodgdon shows a load range of 2. load of W231 (not +P). 357 Max Anyone tried Trail Boss in their Maxi? Jun 7, 2013 · Now about the quiet aspect of Trail Boss. 22-250 uses a maximum charge of 13gn of Trail Boss to drive the thin-jacketed Speer 55gn TNT at about 2000 fps. 45 ACP, . The Hornady data says 2. This recipe will handle rabbits and foxes at ranges of at least 150 metres. I have Blue dot, 2400, Longshot, & some IMR 800x available. Feb 14, 2019 · Trail Boss lists a max load for . O. I am getting ready to try working up trail boss loads but with CCI rather than Winchester. I also want to use the TB loads for . In the 1:16″ 16. 5 k psi for 38+P. 357 Maximum cartridges to produce the desired results in the field. I know its not cheaper but it is nice to have a plinker that I can create the ammo for. 357 revolver. Unlike Win 231, a target load of Trail Boss will fill up much more of the available case volume so you don't have to worry about potential inconsistencies due to powder location in the case. 50-110 class cartridges. I just picked one from shaner's list. 3 grains sends the bullet down range at 1300 fps. 3 grains until 4. Here’s the scenario: 17 y/o daughter wants to hunt deer here in Iowa during late muzzleloader Jul 9, 2010 · Unfortunately, there is no Trail Boss load listed in the "Ruger, Freedom Arms & T/C only" section (30,000 CUP max) where my Ruger Blackhawk fits. What T. Referring back to "rule" 3 above, I marked a case with the bullet depth and filled it with 5. 2gn for a lead 158SWC. RNFP in 44 special. 7 = 3. Most know that Trail Boss is more expensive then other powders, but I feel the safety factor and the achieved accuracy is worth it. I use 4. It is a nice plinking load with low recoil and very good accuracy. _____ Jan 4, 2019 · Reviewing the latest editions of the reloading manuals noted earlier, I selected several component options suitable for . 99. 2fps respectively. I no longer load . I use it in . The best load for me was 3. Safety Data Sheets include all information relating to product composition, safety, handling and storage. (ft/s) Pressure IMR Trail Boss . renny2 Discussion starter May 6, 2015 · I don't see a load in my Lee manual or on the IMR site I checked, but I hope there's one for : . 357 Magnum, . 5 gr of 2400 I get 1150 fps thru my chron. Anyone else use Trail Boss in their . 0grs of Trail Boss Powder topped with a 125gr. 45 ACP. 45colt. 75"; barrel: 10"; trim: 1. 50yds was way low, but 25yds was a little high, making me think that at 35 Mar 7, 2011 · I get 1080fps with 12 gr of 2400 with a 180 Hornady xtp setting on top of it in my gp 100 357 mag. Out of my 5" model 27 the average velocity was 717 fps. I'm loading a 158gr lead SW with 4. 38 SPL brass. 38 spl and is fairly low velocity. brass. 38 Special to a stout . I will load some test rounds trying the 158s with the Trail Boss and report back on the results. Dec 29, 2010 · If you own a pistol and you reload, don't walk, run to the store and buy some Trail Boss and some lead bullets. The following tests were conducted to provide our customers with load information in our 1:16″ barrels, as well as stability testing with the 1:20″ twist barrels. I also loaded some . 0 max). 45 auto, 38/357 etc. A light subsonic type load with minimal recoil is very useful for small game, varmints and introduction for new shootersPlus, Sep 28, 2013 · 357 is no problem - max charge is powder to the base of the bullet with no compression. cast bullets with gas checks over Trail Boss powder and can ring the 200 yd. Mar 23, 2016 · The accuracy of these loads hold up well beyond 50 yards and while well beyond the pressure and velocity of 38 Specials are quite mild for the 357 Magnum. I'm planning on using . 357 Maximum can be found on the Handgun Cartridge Page. 0 to 4. They should make a very good house defense load and field load for small critters up to about 50 pounds or so. 5 gr. I've tired everything from mild 650-700 fps loads using Trail Boss in . 4 start and 5. 44 Associates of the 1920s and 1930s began handloading it to its maximum potential; then, the . The 9mm 147-grain XTP load would probably work well on coyotes – and also happened to shoot the smallest groups of any of the handloads. 357 cartridge. Trail Boss has been used for reduced- recoil loads in old Winchester and Sharps rifles chambered for . 38 special is a minimum of 2. . Perfect for light loads for the grandkids. Federal . However, Hornady lists Trail Boss for several bullets in . Jun 9, 2013 · For instance: I have a 30-06 that has a very long throat. Jan 18, 2012 · Trail Boss is designed specifically for low velocity lead bullet loads suitable for Cowboy Action shooting. It is based on a whole new technology which allows very high loading density, good flow through powder measures, stability in severe temperature variation and most Dec 6, 2013 · This is the first time I have used Trail Boss for . Different primers gave different results. 223 for small game when we are out wolf hunting with our mil-dot scopes it is just a matter of finding which dot is on target at 10-30 yards that is what the range is for another excuse to go shooting! Feb 14, 2003 · I would like to find some . C. ) (Edit to add) 4227 is my general "go-to" powder for . Nov 3, 2020 · Ok. 357 Maximum, buy it and try it! Oct 1, 2014 · Starting Loads Maximum Loads Manufacturer Powder Bullet Diam. bullet. 357 Magnum delivers less muzzle energy than a 240/250-grain cast SWC on top of a case full of 2400 or 4227. 357 Magnum handloads. Feb 13, 2010 · Standard small pistol primers here. But maybe you don't care. 45-70 cast boolit loads for 350, 405, 500 and 535 grains. 38 spl load in their 2006 reloaders guide. of Unique behind 250/255 gr. My sights are set for full 357mag loads. So does the same charge weight — not volume — of W231. 3385 Views 9 Replies 7 Participants Last post by ironhead7544, Jan 4, 2014 Jump to Latest R. 357 Jan 16, 2019 · So, using Hodgdon data for 130 grain . It's a very light recoiling load which has turned out to be the most accurate load to date in my GP100. 357 Magnum from various sources and bullet weights. 357 Magnum loads are pretty intense for extended sessions on both the hands and the wallet out of most revolvers. Trail boss powder is the way to go using heavy lead cast bullets. Jan 29, 2009 · Trail Boss is good stuff. 357 Magnum). 45 Colt Aug 29, 2011 · Gcrank1 was interested in how Trail Boss would work in the 45-120. Will post some of the stuff when I get some stuff worked up. 38 Special (IMR Handgun Trail Boss Data) reloading data with 4 loads. IMR Trail Boss Loads in . 2 grains of Trail Boss which IMR shows as thier maximum . IMR 4227 and 4759 are also favorites, and in recent years Hodgdon’s Trail Boss has also become popular. Jan 15, 2019 · Just understand 2 things; the velocities listed for the load in 38 Special brass will be higher than what is achieved in 357 Mag. 25″ barrels, we tested loads from subsonic . 357 Maximum Thompson/Center Contender. Oct 16, 2017 · The maximum velocity standard for revolvers is 1000 fps. 38 Special (IMR Handgun Trail Boss Data) Warning! Notes: case Winchester; twist: 1:18. Vel. of Trail Boss. 10" case. but well worth it. rifle velocities, rifle bullets for the . 0gr of powder and CCI SPM primers. All velocities were out of a 4" gun. 5" Redhawk. 223 for small game when we are out wolf hunting with our mil-dot scopes it is just a matter of finding which dot is on target at 10-30 yards that is what the range is for another excuse to go shooting! . 357 max subsonic loads for 50 foot and 25 yard targets. In most standard CAS-type loads, Trail Boss will occupy 50 to 100 percent of the case. Dec 31, 2015 · Trail Boss powder is your friend. 75"; barrel: 7. If your chosen cartridge/caliber holds 5. Jan 13, 2016 · I run 5gr Trail Boss under the 300gr Mihec 44/444-300 hollow point boolit. (L to R): . 7 and a maximum of 4. 38 loads Trail Boss is the powder for a cowboy action shooting load. As long as you stay between 60% and 100% load density, you're good. 357 magnum. Dec 12, 2018 · Although Alliant (formerly Hercules) 2400 has long been a favorite powder for preparing reduced loads, probably the best choice today is Accurate 5744, which is a low-density propellant that occupies a larger volume in the case. Apr 25, 2016 · Maximum versatility? full-tilt . I'm switching over to Unique powder. Feb 12, 2019 · A light subsonic type load with minimal recoil is very useful for small game, varmints and introduction for new shooters…Plus, the recommendation was made to only shoot Maximum brass in this barrel… Apr 2, 2011 · I have Martini Cadet in . Just depends on what kinds of loads you plan to shoot. 2 grain maximum load (max for both . Magnum primers only seem to be necessary for some of the harder to ignite powders. 200" 4. 7gr of W-231 makes a nice target load . 25 fps. 8 gr. Products purchased on our site are NOT FOR RESALE. 357 loads instead of plain lead. This is your maximum load. Feb 18, 2011 · right out of the 2008 free fer nuthin' Hodgon Data Manual: 38 Special - 158 gr lead SWC - 4. Trail Boss is the powder for a cowboy action shooting load. i use a split fired case (4 slits at the case mouth done with a dremel carbide wheel - i When shooting Trail Boss in leverguns, a bullet’s maximum velocity will likely be realized in shorter barrels. Jun 20, 2011 · I went to the range today and shot another 75 or so and still like the load, but am thinking of upping the load one more hole in the dispenser to try to get closer to the 4. 7 grains. 0 grains of Trail Boss and the cast bullet. Aug 2, 2010 · I have a load for the max that is just like a baby 38-55 or 45-70 load, use a lead bullet, anything 158 and up will do just fine, I actually use a 240 grain mountain mould bullet and load it with unique, much as the other wise shooters have recommended. 357 cases, But thats just me. Improved Military Rifle IMR 8208 XBR. 30/30 with a heavier bullet. I get good accuracy at 100 yards from a double rifle, without blowing my shoulder all to heck. 40-65 Winchester (IMR Rifle Trail Boss Data) reloading data with 2 loads. 020" off the lands, I can get 22grns of Trail Boss below the bullet with no compression, even though the manuels suggest 19grns as a suggested max. I'd run . 35 Rem. Compare with other calibers and powders on Shooter's Reference. 0gr Trail Boss for some very low recoil loads for my buddy's kids to shoot through it. Sep 24, 2006 · I loaded . 030" vegetable fiber wad and a max load of IMR Trail Boss for a velocity of about 900 fps. I've found the best loads are if the powder is just touching the bottom of the seated bullet. 38 Special +P, and 1150 fps with 2400 in . I am using 15 grains by weight of Trail Boss in my 45-70 Sharps carbine. -equivalent loads, that cartridge could be dangerous to shoot in an old gun only equipped to handle blackpowder-equivalent . 357 Magnum (IMR Handgun Trail Boss Data) reloading data with 4 loads. 357 case. 7 661 11,400 PSI Jan 24, 2013 · I use Trail Boss for most of my 38 Special loads - 3. For light loads the Trail boss should work great. 257 Roberts is another matter. 45 Colt was 8. 2. Printed from Shooter's Reference on 08/02/2024: https://www. One load even worked better when the powder was forward, erratic when the powder was against the primer. Max pressure for a 38 Special is 17k psi or 18. 357 Maximum load still shoots well enough for big game and can be used in California, or other places requiring “non-toxic” bullets. It is primarily a pistol powder, but has some application in rifle. - Load maximum is the full case volume *without any powder compression* in my 500 S&W. 1 grains with magnum primers. It may be more expensive than other powders (9 ounces in a "can" instead of 16) but it meters perfectly in my Dillon powder measure and I do not worry about getting too much in the case. 44 Spl. IMHO Trail Boss is not a one size fits all powder. 0 grains of Trail Boss powder under a 158 gr LSWC in . 357 Magnum are 1:14. 1 foot-pounds with 4. 44 Magnum, . pressures. If so, maybe someone could share a link. 2 gr - 804 ft/sec - 13,700 CUP 357 Mag - 158 gr lead SWC - 4. 3 do you step it up . Nov 2, 2009 · Say Trail Boss start load is 4. 350 roundball if a double ball load, then a ball crimped at the case mouth. . Trail Boss is really a plinking powder and if you need something faster, I have used Bullseye, Unique, W231, and H110. Nov 26, 2018 · Of those I would lean toward Universal as an all around choice. It doesn't show a minimum charge weight, and 1075 fps seems a little stout fo Jan 13, 2021 · I'm not sure, but that range of sizes seems pretty reasonable to me. (ft/s) PRESSURE GRS. 2 gr or . Any opinions about shooting rounds loaded to . But I would like to use the same reloaded 357 Mag rounds in my Marlin cowboy lever rifle which has a 20" barrel. 8gn behind a 158gn plated SWC. Jan 8, 2007 · The better half shoots 3. 38 spl cases using 158 LSWC bullets and 4. It is primarily a pistol powder but has some application in rifles. 35 Remington bullet and shot under 1 MOA in my 14-inch Contender. 2 gr - 865 ft/sec - 20,400 CUP Chuck Hawks shares information about IMR Trail Boss Smokeless Powder. 2 865 20,400 CUP---I think you're going to have a hard time finding hotter loads for Trail Boss. Recoil with hot loads is pretty stiff so a scope with lots of eye relief is a good idea. 5 grains of Trail Boss in 38SP cases. Apr 18, 2014 · The primary reason for the 357 is to replace the non-existent 22lr that I so enjoyed shooting. May 24, 2023 · Trail Boss was designed specifically for low-velocity lead bullets suitable for Cowboy Action shooting. 357-diameter 180-grain XTP worked well on deer in the previously mentioned no-rifle zone, when used in Bob’s . Trail Boss sounds like one I will have to try. 38s, . 7"; trim: 1. Falcon TCLP bullet. 357 magnum cases, 140 grain hard cast round nose lead using Trail Boss powder. Powders include IMR Mar 6, 2020 · A max charge of 27. TB is outstanding in reduced 30-30 loads. 145"; primer: Winchester SP; do not exceed loads listed Be Alert: Publisher cannot be responsible for errors in published load data. I use the Hornady bullets for their consistancy and accuracy at 100 yards and the wad to reduce leading in my barrel. The load is accurate and mild mannered with no barrel leading issues. Oct 6, 2006 · Now I use a handload with . I use Missouri Bullet’s 140-grain TCFP on a max charge of Trail Boss. 3 as listed for 200 gr. One bullet with Trail Boss strayed from the others to somewhat increase group size over groups shot with Unique and ZIP, but accuracy was still acceptable. 3gn for a lead wad cutter. 357 max and the results are not quite up to what I would like to have. For . More about this powder: Find load data for Accurate 5770 propellant by clicking the button 'Loads for this Powder'. When I back the bullet . Mar 22, 2021 · Shooting the gun reveals a bit of bite in the hand, but this is certainly tolerable, especially with a heavier gun like the Encore. I'm still waiting on my barrel from Match Grade Machine, but have been loading a few test loads. I generally thank them and then say, using reduced Trail Boss loads, heard my bullet hit the target. One of the ideas behind this powder is that is made bulky so that you can not double load it. I don't have a . Using bullets from Lead Round Nose Flat Point, Lead Semi-Wadcutter. 2g for "cowboy" plinking loads and the max 4. That 2. 357/. I have been using Lil Gun in my 357 mag for several years. 357 Mag. I had shot a 158 gr Semi wadcutter with 4 grains of Trail Boss and it did very well. Find load data for IMR TrailBoss propellant by clicking the button "Loads for this Powder". I turned my friends onto it and they have the same results. It's definitely not a mass production Mar 9, 2014 · For two decades my standard load for the . if you really want to liven it up, load up a full case of black powder or black May 18, 2011 · Now for the . I got some BM 8208 for high velocity loads (been using BM II until now) and some Trail Boss for reduced loads in the 223rem. (ft/s) Pressure Grs. 357 Magnum rounds through the Uberti 1873. Pressures will be below the maximum allowed for this cartridge and perfectly safe to use! 2) Take 70% of this powder charge weight (multiply the maximum load from step 1 by . 3 grain TB load is near that 70% max load. May 15, 2022 · Straight from Hodgdon's reloading info. Nothing on the alliant site except BE-86. in max cases and use the AOL of those loads as a guide for seating depth in Max cases . If you can find a gun to shoot the . So I’m probably ignoring Occam’s Razor here, so I’ll go ahead and ask the question. 357, . 357 magnum brass. Max load listed for the 45-70 is 13 grains. 357,but after decades of doing so, I've found 160 grain SWCs to be ideal, and anything over about 170 grains to be too heavy for decent velocity. Topped with a 240-grain cast bullet, the Trail Boss load yields normal . Jun 28, 2018 · Trail Boss is an extremely bulky powder and generally is loaded by volume as apposed to by weight, by which I mean it is usually loaded somewhere between 70 - 100% of the free case volume. 30-06 is about the upper limit of bullet diameter compared to case size for subsonic loads. Feb 4, 2018 · I didn't mention Trail Boss as I didn't care for it in the . Dec 29, 2012 · This is the load I'm working on. The Alliant website 38 Special cowboy loading guide shows 6. Trail Boss to the bottom of the bullet. 357 brass I see no Trail Boss data. basically as long as its not compressed by a projectile (COMPRESSED LOADS OF TRAIL BOSS ARE EXTREMELY DANGEROUS AND WILL MOST CERTAINLY CAUSE PRESSURE SPIKES Sep 28, 2012 · 357 Mag is a "legal" SASS cartridge as long as it meets the SASS power factor limits. May 10, 2010 · In my case the load I use is a 38 Special load that is above the minimum 357 load, so there is an overlap for W231 with 158 gr. 300 BLK, 44 Mag, 357 Maximum, 9mm, 45 ACP, 45 Apr 11, 2017 · I am looking for a small game load. 0 grains maximum of Unique with a 125 grain RNFP at 1075 fps. 38+P, or . In fact, Hodgdon does not list subsonic Trail Boss loads for rifle cartridges with a case larger than the . to Max load of 6. 874 start Kind've defeats the purpose in 357 loads due to very mild velocities. Too fast. Jun 6, 2018 · That amount of Trail Boss is your maximum load, suggested starting load is 70% of the maximum load. I think the "Detonation" concerns (too little powder leading to an explosion rather than a burning of the powder) are probably not a concern, at least for W231 in Jun 7, 2014 · I plan on loading 220-300 grain boolits at subsonic levels for shooting suppressed. loaded as such it is very similar to the old 38 extra long. Feb 12, 2019 · The Light Loaded 357 Maximum Utilizing Trail Boss Powder. Great mild, clean, load. qfnlelg wan zmmnp lxa kkcet subqe jpvjy ckrwnd kqj fstha